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Interview: For 7 Years, This Journalist Has Tried To Track Every Police Killing In The U.S.

  •  Bert Johnson 
Friday, June 5, 2020 | Sacramento, CA
AP Photo / Mike Stewart

Demonstrators protest in Centennial Olympic Park, Friday, May 29, 2020 in Atlanta. Protests were organized in cities around the United States following the death of George Floyd during an arrest in Minneapolis.

AP Photo / Mike Stewart

By Bert Johnson and Rachel Christiansen

Brian Burghart was editor of the Reno News & Review in 2012 when he learned about the killing of a naked, unarmed college student, Gil Collar, at the University of South Alabama. That got him thinking: was there a centralized database where people could look up use of force incidents, to understand how common they are?

The FBI collects information on those incidents from law enforcement agencies around the country. But participation is voluntary. Since those agencies aren’t required to submit their data, the records are incomplete. 

So Burghart founded Fatal Encounters, the first national database of police killings. It began as a crowdsourced effort to compile public records about incidents where law enforcement officials killed someone, although he later changed his approach to compiling news reports that he finds with Google alerts. 

He found African Americans make up 26% of those killed by police, but only 13% of the population. People who are mentally ill or low-income are also over-represented.

Burghart’s research hasn’t received much feedback from the police themselves. But agencies such as the Dallas Police Department point to recent reforms they’ve adopted, which they say help reduce the lethality of their interactions with the public. 

Seven years later, the trends remain the same. But Burghart believes law enforcement officials could improve their relationships with the communities they serve by adopting reforms, like greater transparency when an officer-involved shooting occurs.

In the wake of several days of nationwide protest over the police killings of unarmed Black citizens Breonna Taylor and George Floyd, Rachel Christiansen spoke with D. Brian Burghart about his research for KNPR’s State of Nevada. 

On the willingness of police to provide public records of use of force incidents

The law requires them to give [public records] to you.

When the project started, we were crowdsourcing public records. So we ended up doing about 2,600 records. But primarily we use news reports. 

Some would send you the information that you requested with no issues. Others might ask you for, you know, pennies. I mean, it would cost you more for the stamps than it would the check that they wanted in order to provide the data. 

Others, like, for example, I believe it was Fort Worth police, wanted $35,000 for the records we were requesting. And then there are those who just send you everything you ask for and don't ask for anything.

On Nevada’s rate of police killings

Nevada wasn't really that different from what I've learned in the years since.

Poor people tend to get killed. Mentally ill people tend to get killed. People of color tend to get killed beyond their representation in the population. Basically the same stuff that you find across the country. 

Our records go back to 2000. That's where we started the database, January 1, 2000. Las Vegas was worse than it is now. In fact, probably a lot worse.

On ways to reduce the number of people police kill

There are things they can do.  

One thing that has been found to be fairly successful is making them do paperwork every single time the gun gets pulled out of the holster. 

Las Vegas had more shootings and they changed policy. While the numbers aren't as great in Las Vegas as maybe in California or Los Angeles, different policies do decrease the number of people who end up dead.  

On the value of greater transparency  

I do believe that if police were more open, particularly when something happens, I think people would be less suspicious. 

So in a community when there's no heroes and there's no villains, it creates a lot of suspicion. And I think you see those suspicions represented when there are times of turmoil like we're having now, with these demonstrations.  

This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.


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