Skip to content
Independent and accessible public media is needed more than ever.
Help us continue keeping communities informed and inspired.
Keep public media independent and accessible
Donate Now

View thank you gift options

CapRadio

CapRadio

signal status listen live donate
listen live donate signal status
listen live donate signal status
  • News
    • topics
    • State Government
    • Environment
    • Health Care
    • Race and Equity
    • Business
    • Arts and Lifestyle
    • Food and Sustainability
    • PolitiFact California
  • Music
    • genres
    • Classical
    • Jazz
    • Eclectic
    • Daily Playlist
  • Programs + Podcasts
    • news
    • Morning Edition
    • All Things Considered
    • Marketplace
    • Insight With Vicki Gonzalez
    • music
    • Acid Jazz
    • At the Opera
    • Classical Music
    • Connections
    • Excellence in Jazz
    • Hey, Listen!
    • K-ZAP on CapRadio
    • Mick Martin's Blues Party
    • Programs A-Z
    • Podcast Directory
  • Schedules
    • News
    • Music
    • ClassicalStream
    • JazzStream
    • Weekly Schedule
    • Daily Playlist
  • Community
    • Events Calendar
    • CapRadio Garden
    • CapRadio Reads
    • Ticket Giveaways
  • Support
    • Evergreen Gift
    • One-Time Gift
    • Corporate Support
    • Vehicle Donation
    • Stock Gift
    • Legacy Gift
    • Endowment Gift
    • Benefits
    • Member FAQ
    • e‑Newsletter
    • Drawing Winners
    • Thank You Gifts
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
  • Close Menu

Confusion Over Mask Rules Has Sacramento Businesses, Workers Thinking About Conflict-Resolution

  •  Randol White 
Thursday, May 20, 2021 | Sacramento, CA
Listen
/
Update RequiredTo play audio, update browser or Flash plugin.
Randol White / CapRadio

Sign at the entrance to Big Stump Brewing Company in Sacramento in May 2021.

Randol White / CapRadio

While scrolling through news headlines this past weekend, I found the story of former child actor Ricky Schroder’s squabble with a Los Angeles Costco employee over whether he still needed to wear a mask.

It plays out in a Facebook video posted to Schroder’s account: He’s upset that the employee is requiring him to wear a mask, despite recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines. He also appears not to understand the store is following state of California rules.

The video is a high-profile representation of exactly the conflict many expected to see play out at businesses throughout the state.

At the Sacramento Natural Foods Co-op, store marketing director Jennifer Cliff explained there was a mask-related incident over the weekend.

“A woman was upset about it,” Cliff said of the tension between the CDC and California guidelines. 

“The CDC is putting out these announcements and these changes. That’s great. But that hasn’t changed for Sacramento, that hasn’t changed for this county, and the store still requires them,” she said.

Sacramento Natural Foods Co-op Marketing Director Jennifer Cliff
Randol White / CapRadio

The vast majority of the Co-op customers seem to be fine with the mask policy, she said, adding that the company has been clear about its rules since the start of the pandemic, which helps avoid conflict with customers.

Clarity is key, agreed Ashley Virtue with the National Conflict Resolution Center based in San Diego. She says most conflict results from lack of communication.

“Or more specifically a lack of expectations,” Virtue said. “Our advice ... is be very clear about your expectations, and communicate perhaps not only what you’re looking for but even why.”

That’s exactly Alex Larrabee’s game plan at Sacramento’s Big Stump Brewing Company in Midtown. He says the “why” is the safety of his employees. Part of the way he gets that messaging out is through social media. In fact, not only is Larrabee the brewery’s CEO, he’s also in charge of the company Instagram account — and he says he loves it.

A recent post on the Big Stump Instagram account.

When it comes to mask rules, he recently shared a post on Instagram. Its message? Well, it ultimately boils down to Hey, don’t try to test us on this, we’re going to stick with California’s guidelines for now.

“I take the health of our staff extremely seriously. They put a lot of effort into making this place run. And for someone to disrespect them by not acting in a safe manner is not something that we are willing to accept as a company,” Larrabee said.

There’s been some pushback from commenters on social media, he says, but recognizes that you can’t please everyone. And even after June 15, when the state is scheduled to lighten mask regulations, he says he will prioritize the safety of his workers.

“There are people that are not going to be vaccinated and are not going to be wearing masks and pretending like they're vaccinated,” he said.

Alex Larrabee (right) checks the brewing equipment as he and his crew start work on a batch of saison at Big Stump Brewing Company in Sacramento.Randol White / CapRadio
Alex Larrabee (center) with the brewery team at Big Stump Brewing Company in Sacramento.Randol White / CapRadio

The Co-op’s Cliff says they’re already talking about what to do when the state changes its mask and face-covering guidelines.

“We’re not going to be asking people to show their vaccination cards. It’s just not going to happen. It’s not a realistic way to do business as a grocer, so it will be an honor system,” Cliff said.

She thinks many shoppers will still wear masks, but also acknowledges that “some people are so ready” to take them off.

“Not everyone’s in the same place, and they’re not going to be for a while,” Virtue said of the various perspectives during this moment. “We’ve all had a different experience over the last year and a half.”

Whether we’ve lost loved ones or a job to the pandemic or got through it relatively unscathed, we’re all still dealing with trauma, she says, and so we need to keep that in mind as we head back into social interactions.

“We have emotional triggers that are popping up,” Virtue said. “It’s healthy and it’s good to say, ‘OK, I feel maybe a little bit more emotional about this than I would otherwise,’ and that may inform the way that I respond.”

She wants to see people use this time to extend grace to the person you’re waiting in line next to, passing on the sidewalk or who may be asking you to mask-up in as you enter a Costco — because you don’t know what they’ve been through.


Follow us for more stories like this

CapRadio provides a trusted source of news because of you.  As a nonprofit organization, donations from people like you sustain the journalism that allows us to discover stories that are important to our audience. If you believe in what we do and support our mission, please donate today.

Donate Today  

    More about Coronavirus

  • NIAID-RML via AP

    Coronavirus In California: Latest Updates And Resources

    The coronavirus has impacted nearly every aspect of life in California and around the world. Here are resources and all our coverage at CapRadio and NPR.
  • Health Care
  •  

 Coronavirus

Randol White

All Things Considered Anchor/Reporter

Randol White is an award-winning, accomplished, and well-rounded broadcast journalist with more than two decades of radio, television, web and print experience.  Read Full Bio 

 @RandolWhite  Email Randol White

Sign up for ReCap and never miss the top stories

Delivered to your inbox every Friday.

 

Check out a sample ReCap newsletter.

Thanks for subscribing!

Thank you for signing up for the ReCap newsletter! We'll send you an email each Friday with the top stories from CapRadio.

Browse all newsletters
 We Get Support From:
Become a Supporter 
 We Get Support From:
Become a Supporter 

Back to Top

  • CapRadio

    7055 Folsom Boulevard
    Sacramento, CA 95826-2625

    • (916) 278-8900
    • Toll-free (877) 480-5900
    • Email Us
    • Submit a News Tip
  • Contact Us

  • About Us

    • Contact Us / Feedback
    • Coverage
    • Directions
    • Careers & Internships
    • Mission / Vision / Core Values
    • Press
    • Staff Directory
    • Board of Directors
  • Listening Options

    • Mobile App
    • On Air Schedules
    • Smart Speakers
    • Playlist
    • Podcasts
    • RSS
  • Connect With Us

    •  Facebook
    •  Twitter
    •  Instagram
    •  YouTube
  • Donate

  • Listen

  • Newsletters

CapRadio stations are licensed to California State University, Sacramento. © 2022, Capital Public Radio. All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy | Website Feedback FCC Public Files: KXJZ KKTO KUOP KQNC KXPR KXSR KXJS. For assistance accessing our public files, please call 916-278-8900 or email us.